Surveyor Recommendation

Aja · Post by **Aja** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:19 pm

Anyone like to recommend a surveyor for an out of water condition insurance survey? Boat is at James Watt Dock. Cheap 'n cheerful rather than in depth.

Regards
Donald

ash · Post by **ash** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:42 pm

I used TeemSurveys.

Price is based on boat length.

Ash

Booby Trapper · Post by **Booby Trapper** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:18 am

Happy with them too. Tom is a yacht owner as well

wully · Post by **wully** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:52 pm

Avoid them like the plague ! He's a useless incompetent, no wonder he's cheap.

Told me it was my fault that he didn't spot water leaking into my boat from the anode through hull bolts and missed two different leaks from the log and impeller fittings that even I had spotted.

I could go on about the other stuff he failed to report which I mostly had already noticed.

If you pay peanuts.....

aquaplane · Post by **aquaplane** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:06 pm

For an insurance survey, a surveyor who doesn't notice all the little things that you know are bust but haven't got round to fixing is desirable.

I would get a better surveyor to check out a boat I was looking at buying and didn't know.

Booby Trapper · Post by **Booby Trapper** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:08 pm

I can only go on my experience. I've had 2 boats surveyed one was done by Teem Surveys I found them ok maybe I was lucky. my previous boat was surveyed by a highly regarded largs based surveyor, I found him mostly useless. I would never use him again.
I believe with an insurance survey assuming you've owned the boat for a while you will probably know more wrong with the boat than a surveyor will find.

claymore · Post by **claymore** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:24 am

Booby Trapper · Post by **Booby Trapper** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:10 am

claymore wrote:Jim?

Nope

claymore · Post by **claymore** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:45 am

Sorry - crossed wires!
I was suggesting Jim McIlraith to Donald.
Now I'm hoping it was crossed wires!

ParaHandy · Post by **ParaHandy** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:37 pm

Aja wrote:Anyone like to recommend a surveyor for an out of water condition insurance survey? Boat is at James Watt Dock. Cheap 'n cheerful rather than in depth.

Regards
Donald

Donald

I undertook this instead of just changing the insurer. The boat's rigging being over 10 years old, was condemned without any justification, any evidence, statistical, anecdotal or heresay that any Tradewind 35 had ever been lost through a rigging failure.

Nearly at the end of this exercise, I have a pile of discarded but perfectly serviceable rigging just waiting to be binned. I'm left with the thought that I might just have changed the rigging for something that is faulty or not as reliable.

Unless you're sailing a round the world racing craft, I'd consider changing the insurer. The original request to undertake the survey was not conditional upon renewal of the insurance and therefore no insurance had been ever refused.

Douglas

Post by **Silkie** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:13 pm

ParaHandy wrote:I'm left with the thought that I might just have changed the rigging for something that is faulty or not as reliable.

It is said that the most common time for rigging to fail is shortly after renewal!

claymore · Post by **claymore** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:35 am

I've heard that said about renewing marriage vows....

Aja · Post by **Aja** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:28 pm

claymore wrote:Sorry - crossed wires!
I was suggesting Jim McIlraith to Donald.
Now I'm hoping it was crossed wires!

Ha Ha!

Jim politely suggested I go look somewhere cheap as it's only for insurance. He did suggest someone mentioned on here....

Donald

Aja · Post by **Aja** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:33 pm

ParaHandy wrote:
Aja wrote:Anyone like to recommend a surveyor for an out of water condition insurance survey? Boat is at James Watt Dock. Cheap 'n cheerful rather than in depth.

Regards
Donald
Donald

I undertook this instead of just changing the insurer. The boat's rigging being over 10 years old, was condemned without any justification, any evidence, statistical, anecdotal or heresay that any Tradewind 35 had ever been lost through a rigging failure.

Nearly at the end of this exercise, I have a pile of discarded but perfectly serviceable rigging just waiting to be binned. I'm left with the thought that I might just have changed the rigging for something that is faulty or not as reliable.

Unless you're sailing a round the world racing craft, I'd consider changing the insurer. The original request to undertake the survey was not conditional upon renewal of the insurance and therefore no insurance had been ever refused.

Douglas

That was possibly a follow on question. When changing Insurers, what is the requirement? I have a survey which is now 10 years old (by Survey One). In this time I've upgraded everything that was required at the time and also continued with preventative maintenance where required. Rigging, for example has all been replaced within the last three years by MRS.

Can I just turn up at an insurers door (so to speak) with a copy of my survey and expect cover?

Donald

claymore · Post by **claymore** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:56 am

Don't see why not - a new survey isn't going to come up with something that has not been attended to. Pantaenius worth a shot?

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