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Re: ETVs gone in a fortnight
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:21 am
by Nick
aquaplane wrote:We did have a nice picknick on Tuesday, in the Disco, on the road to Easdale, looking out to Pladda, thinking "I'm glad I'm sat here and not out in that lot". It may have been not so bad in a bigger boat but not for us.
We had a nice run out though.
You passed within 50 yards of our house - you should have dropped in and distracted me from tiling the bathroom . . .
Re: ETVs gone in a fortnight
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:02 am
by Mark
Nick wrote:For Scotland, £4m per annum is a reasonable insurance premium IMO based on what we know of past, current and future costs - to ordinary people and the environment as well as to the economy.
That looks like a 'cost-benefit analysis' to me.
Re: ETVs gone in a fortnight
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:28 pm
by ubergeekian
Nick wrote:... the only insurance we have against a major maritime disaster in the Minch ...
Apart from charts, lighthouses, the GPS system, the coastguard, the GMDSS system, training and regulatory schemes for officers and crew, inspections of vessels in ports, insurance company requirements, depth sounders, radar ... ?
Nope, the ONLY thing averting disaster is clearly that tug in Stornoway which has never actually been called out to avert a disaster.
Oh, and aqueducts, obviously.
Re: ETVs gone in a fortnight
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:16 pm
by Nick
ubergeekian wrote:Nick wrote:... the only insurance we have against a major maritime disaster in the Minch ...
Apart from charts, lighthouses, the GPS system, the coastguard, the GMDSS system, training and regulatory schemes for officers and crew, inspections of vessels in ports, insurance company requirements, depth sounders, radar ... ?
Nope, the ONLY thing averting disaster is clearly that tug in Stornoway which has never actually been called out to avert a disaster.
Oh, and aqueducts, obviously.
Oi!
I thought you were told to stop feeding me!
last minujte reprieve
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:14 pm
by Nick
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Looks like there's been a
last minute reprieve - only for three months though.
Re: last minujte reprieve
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:06 am
by Alan_D
Might have been better to announce it
before Anglian Sovereign had overpainted the big white letters on the hull saying "COASTGUARD".
Re: last minujte reprieve
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:27 am
by ubergeekian
Or
maybe not.
Incidentally, if it costs £32m to run 4 tugs for 4.5 years (£1.8m per tug per year) why is it costing £3m to keep two tugs for three months (£6m per tug per year)?
Re: last minujte reprieve
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:29 am
by Nick
ubergeekian wrote:
Incidentally, if it costs £32m to run 4 tugs for 4.5 years (£1.8m per tug per year) why is it costing £3m to keep two tugs for three months (£6m per tug per year)?
Good question. Unfortunately if I had to answer it it would lead us onto politics and my opinion of the Boy Dave, and that would not do as
THIS IS A SAILING FORUM!
Re: last minujte reprieve
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:38 pm
by marisca
Nick wrote:
Good question. Unfortunately if I had to answer it it would lead us onto politics and my opinion of the Boy Dave, and that would not do as THIS IS A SAILING FORUM!
Oh, go on! You know you want to .....
Re: last minujte reprieve
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:34 pm
by Rowana
Nick wrote:
Good question. Unfortunately if I had to answer it it would lead us onto politics and my opinion of the Boy Dave, and that would not do as THIS IS A SAILING FORUM!
Good job we're not discussing Gordon Clown and Tony B Liar then

Re: ETVs gone in a fortnight
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:18 am
by Nick
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Secretary of State for Scotland Michael Moore officially announced the £3m 3-month 'interim' funding funding during a visit to Stornoway yesterday. AFAIK there is currently not a tug on station in the Minch.
The Secretary of State also confirmed that the UK Government is committed to finding a way to fund the service on a long term basis.