Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
- claymore
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Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
You may have seen the article advertised on the Bluemoment front page?
Seems strange to have put a picture of Claymore there under full sail including grey spinnaker and then gone into some article rambling on about people not sailing anymore.
Seems to me that if you buy a dram and prefer it with water, that is your prerogative.
Seems to me comparable prerogatives apply when you buy a boat.
Seems strange to have put a picture of Claymore there under full sail including grey spinnaker and then gone into some article rambling on about people not sailing anymore.
Seems to me that if you buy a dram and prefer it with water, that is your prerogative.
Seems to me comparable prerogatives apply when you buy a boat.
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Claymore

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Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
+1claymore wrote: Seems to me that if you buy a dram and prefer it with water, that is your prerogative.
Seems to me comparable prerogatives apply when you buy a boat.
- sahona
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Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Certainly, some whiskies need a drop of water, but there again, so do boats.
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Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
A bloke on a bus once told me that people who "know" Whisky drink it with water.sahona wrote:Certainly, some whiskies need a drop of water, but there again, so do boats.
I never thought to check if that was a generally accepted view but I have now:
http://www.scotchwhisky.net/drinking/index.htm
there is no “right” or “wrong” way to drink Scotch whisky
- sahona
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Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
I've had a few that really need the water. No - maybe that was too much of a personal view.
Perhaps it would be fairer to say that you can try a sip each of pure and dilute and then spend the rest of the evening with your preference.
I suspect that the proof of the dram is if the experience is repeatable, and independant of the initial demenour of the recipient on the night, unlike wine, which in my experience, rarely seems to live up to the previous occasion. It's this fickle grape harvest thingy, and whose feet are better at the tramping, that make it such a lottery in comparison to the stability of whisky - once you have found your favourite and decided on water or not, you should be set up for life.
As for the OP - it does seem incongruous to choose a picture of a gentlemans motor-sailer under full sail to illustrate an article bemoaning the fact that nobody sails, when there must be pics of AWBs trying to out-motor each other to the last vacant buoy, in abundance.
Perhaps the editor didn't totally agree with the sentiment of the article?
Perhaps it would be fairer to say that you can try a sip each of pure and dilute and then spend the rest of the evening with your preference.
I suspect that the proof of the dram is if the experience is repeatable, and independant of the initial demenour of the recipient on the night, unlike wine, which in my experience, rarely seems to live up to the previous occasion. It's this fickle grape harvest thingy, and whose feet are better at the tramping, that make it such a lottery in comparison to the stability of whisky - once you have found your favourite and decided on water or not, you should be set up for life.
As for the OP - it does seem incongruous to choose a picture of a gentlemans motor-sailer under full sail to illustrate an article bemoaning the fact that nobody sails, when there must be pics of AWBs trying to out-motor each other to the last vacant buoy, in abundance.
Perhaps the editor didn't totally agree with the sentiment of the article?
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Cruising, racing, maintenance facilities. Go take a look, you know you want to.
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Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
The only one I see advertised there is an August one by that wee lassie who deliberately didn't quite sail round the world (aye, right) telling us that their exciting campaign would start in six weeks. Can't have been very exciting after all. Where's the one you mean?claymore wrote:You may have seen the article advertised on the Bluemoment front page?
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Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
I've never really drunk Whisky, but now I've got the wood burner I put it on the Christmas list for this year with the intention of quaffing it slowly on winter evenings.sahona wrote:I've had a few that really need the water. No - maybe that was too much of a personal view.
Perhaps it would be fairer to say that you can try a sip each of pure and dilute and then spend the rest of the evening with your preference.
I suspect that the proof of the dram is if the experience is repeatable, and independant of the initial demenour of the recipient on the night, unlike wine, which in my experience, rarely seems to live up to the previous occasion. It's this fickle grape harvest thingy, and whose feet are better at the tramping, that make it such a lottery in comparison to the stability of whisky - once you have found your favourite and decided on water or not, you should be set up for life.
Santa provided ample reading material and a Bottle of Ledaig. Sure enough sitting by the fire taking an occasional sip between page turns is a convivial way to spend an evening.
I wouldn't say I actually like Whisky now, but it tastes of peat and reminds me of Mull, which is enough to keep me pulling the stopper out.
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- marisca
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Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Please, no "e" in whisky, particularly if it comes from Tobermory.
I still don't understand why so many motor their saily boats to get there when the wind is blowing nicely.
I still don't understand why so many motor their saily boats to get there when the wind is blowing nicely.
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
'Tis done.marisca wrote:Please, no "e" in whisky, particularly if it comes from Tobermory.
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
You mean they don't contact you to explain themselves? That makes it even worse! Something should be done!marisca wrote:I still don't understand why so many motor their saily boats to get there when the wind is blowing nicely.

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Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Oh you have so much enjoyment ahead! I'm quite envious.Mark wrote: I've never really drunk Whisky, but now I've got the wood burner I put it on the Christmas list for this year with the intention of quaffing it slowly on winter evenings.
Santa provided ample reading material and a Bottle of Ledaig. Sure enough sitting by the fire taking an occasional sip between page turns is a convivial way to spend an evening.
I wouldn't say I actually like Whisky now, but it tastes of peat and reminds me of Mull, which is enough to keep me pulling the stopper out.

- Arghiro
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Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
I was advised by the Taster at Laphroaig many years ago that one should add around 50% water to normal strength & an equal (1:1) measure to cask strength whiskys. The reason given was that neat whisky will anesthetise your taste buds & dull your palate, whereas adding a little water enhances & improves the flavours. Having spent the years since in careful research I am inclined to agree with him. But for those who seem to feel the need to demonstrate how macho they are, please feel free to destroy your palate.Mark wrote:I've never really drunk Whisky, but now I've got the wood burner I put it on the Christmas list for this year with the intention of quaffing it slowly on winter evenings.sahona wrote:I've had a few that really need the water. No - maybe that was too much of a personal view.
Perhaps it would be fairer to say that you can try a sip each of pure and dilute and then spend the rest of the evening with your preference.
I suspect that the proof of the dram is if the experience is repeatable, and independant of the initial demenour of the recipient on the night, unlike wine, which in my experience, rarely seems to live up to the previous occasion. It's this fickle grape harvest thingy, and whose feet are better at the tramping, that make it such a lottery in comparison to the stability of whisky - once you have found your favourite and decided on water or not, you should be set up for life.
Santa provided ample reading material and a Bottle of Ledaig. Sure enough sitting by the fire taking an occasional sip between page turns is a convivial way to spend an evening.
I wouldn't say I actually like Whisky now, but it tastes of peat and reminds me of Mull, which is enough to keep me pulling the stopper out.
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
I'm so macho that drinking it neat doesn't express my manliness adequately. I rub it into my eyeballs.Arghiro wrote:But for those who seem to feel the need to demonstrate how macho they are, please feel free to destroy your palate.
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Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Thats how Ive taken my whisky for as long back as I can remember, (primary school I think) its all about the flavour...Arghiro wrote:
I was advised by the Taster at Laphroaig many years ago that one should add around 50% water to normal strength & an equal (1:1) measure to cask strength whiskys. The reason given was that neat whisky will anesthetise your taste buds & dull your palate, whereas adding a little water enhances & improves the flavours. Having spent the years since in careful research I am inclined to agree with him. But for those who seem to feel the need to demonstrate how macho they are, please feel free to destroy your palate.

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Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
May I suggest that you dip your willy in it while you are waving it about?Mark wrote:I'm so macho that drinking it neat doesn't express my manliness adequately. I rub it into my eyeballs.Arghiro wrote:But for those who seem to feel the need to demonstrate how macho they are, please feel free to destroy your palate.
