I slept on the boat at Ashton on Friday night. I can report that the new ferries ran until after midnight and started again about 6am. The wee one's wash just gives the boat an energetic roll, the big yin's is a violent, bottle knocking-over, hold on for grim death, battering. In contrast the Festering Wherries hardly make a ripple and the Juno (if it wasnae the Saturn) running for the Cowal Games on Saturday is hardly noticeable. Give the new ferries their due, though, they did slow down when passing the racing yachts.
I reckon their attempt to dig a hole in the water is worse than the tugs' and must be costing a fortune in fuel. Any ideas how to deal with it? I understand that complaints have been made to the Calmac offshoot that runs them and to ClydePorts.
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Re: Gourock Dunoon Ferry
One of them leaves a very 'square' wake which I wouldn't want to take on the beam - I thought that it was the cat.marisca wrote: The wee one's wash just gives the boat an energetic roll, the big yin's is a violent, bottle knocking-over, hold on for grim death, battering.
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Were you part of the racing fleet making very slow progress out of Gourock Bay under spinnaker around lunchtime on Saturday?marisca wrote: Give the new ferries their due, though, they did slow down when passing the racing yachts.
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Aye, it's the Argyll Flyer that's the worse of the pair - a short, very steep, often breaking series of waves - watch the Pipers on their moorings. That is not to say the Ali Cat's is benign; it's just not quite so bad.ash wrote: One of them leaves a very 'square' wake which I wouldn't want to take on the beam - I thought that it was the cat.
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It was the RGYC King George V cup race - I think "slow progress" was an exaggeration!Were you part of the racing fleet making very slow progress out of Gourock Bay under spinnaker around lunchtime on Saturday?
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Was the race still in progress when the wind picked up?marisca wrote:It was the RGYC King George V cup race - I think "slow progress" was an exaggeration!
I motored through the fleet in a biggish gap just behind the leading 4 or 5 boats. In my defence I was close behind a 'motorsailer' style boat who had a bigger wash than me

We motored from Kip, round the Cloch to No1 Buoy, then across to Helensburgh / Rhu Narrows. Had a good sail back in steadily increasing winds. Just on my limit for full sail rounding the Cloch but then a cracking beam reach at 6.5Knts though the water back to Kip.
This was our first time in that part of the Clyde. Would like to go back again for an overnight - can a visitors mooring be had at Rhu Marina or Royal Northern & Clyde Yacht Club?
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PS - Mr Google tells me that 'Marisca' came second in 2010 - better or worse this year?
PPS - Looking at the course details, then it must have been West Bay, not Gourock Bay - More a fault in my memory than my navigation.
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Re: Gourock Dunoon Ferry
Last time I went to Rhu Marina visitors moorings were no problem.ash wrote: This was our first time in that part of the Clyde. Would like to go back again for an overnight - can a visitors mooring be had at Rhu Marina or Royal Northern & Clyde Yacht Club?
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A lot worse this year. Contessa 32s dinnae go in nae wind.ash wrote: PS - Mr Google tells me that 'Marisca' came second in 2010 - better or worse this year?
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Re: Gourock Dunoon Ferry
Do these lumpy ferries have square bahoochies?
The one at lochranza has. It's car ramp seems to go below the waterline, and creates a double wake which has a horrible pattern, and lasts for a long time, seemingly repeating, as the wakes do their algebraic addition.
Looks like we need another category of acceptability in the anchorage profiles, as "C" sure ain't going to change the ferries just 'cos we got grumpy.
The one at lochranza has. It's car ramp seems to go below the waterline, and creates a double wake which has a horrible pattern, and lasts for a long time, seemingly repeating, as the wakes do their algebraic addition.
Looks like we need another category of acceptability in the anchorage profiles, as "C" sure ain't going to change the ferries just 'cos we got grumpy.
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Re: Gourock Dunoon Ferry
This is the 'Flyer' with her original namesahona wrote:Do these lumpy ferries have square bahoochies?

Just wait to see 'Dragon' rolling at her anchor


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I'm sure there's something aboard Dragon that could make the problem disappear.
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A few 4 1/2" holes below the waterline should do nicely.sahona wrote:I'm sure there's something aboard Dragon that could make the problem disappear.
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