Bits of wood

How things work, what's hot and what's not
User avatar
ash
Yellow Admiral
Posts: 1713
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:14 pm
Boat Type: Moody 346
Location: Tarbert, East Loch Tarbert, Loch Fyne, Scotland

Bits of wood

Post by ash »

I haven't had the use of my tillerpilot since I fitted new locker lids as I can't steel myself to drill a hole in the new lid.

I was to spend 3 days single handed last weekend so knocked this contraption up on Friday evening - works just fine but would be a bit limiting if pouring rain!

Image

Image

Ash
"This is a sailing Forum"
Albin Vega "Mistral" is now sold
User avatar
aquaplane
Admiral of the White Rose
Posts: 1555
Joined: Thu May 17, 2007 12:55 pm
Boat Type: Jeanneau Espace
Location: Body: West Yorks; Boat: Tayvallich

Re: Bits of wood

Post by aquaplane »

Hey Ash, that's a mega mod.

Did you take pics of the work in progress? You could submit it to PBO as a project.

I have "modified" my tiller pilot too. It works what can only be described as intermittently. I saw in TOP that they can get damp and become tempramental but can be opened up to dry out.

I thought, nowt to loose, so I undid 6 bolts and started prising apart the case. At the first go there was an ominous twang followed by a suspicious rattle. It looks like the knob to select "OFF"/"smooth"/"rough"/"vane" is in more pieces than it needs to be, with not a prayer of putting it back together. I'll keep it for a few years then bin it.
Seminole.
Cheers Bob.
User avatar
ash
Yellow Admiral
Posts: 1713
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:14 pm
Boat Type: Moody 346
Location: Tarbert, East Loch Tarbert, Loch Fyne, Scotland

Re: Bits of wood

Post by ash »

aquaplane wrote:
Did you take pics of the work in progress? You could submit it to PBO as a project.
Of course - this was the first version but I found that it could 'lift' under heavy loading.

Image
aquaplane wrote:Hey Ash, that's a mega mod.
I can't see if your tongue is in your cheek from this angle!!

Ash
"This is a sailing Forum"
Albin Vega "Mistral" is now sold
Falkirkdan
Master Mariner
Posts: 134
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:54 am
Boat Type: snapdragon 24

Re: Bits of wood

Post by Falkirkdan »

Ash. Just buy the threaded ring and post for your Tillerpilot. That way you will not have to drill a hole in your locker lid.
sam
Master Mariner
Posts: 102
Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:36 pm
Location: Lochcarron

Re: Bits of wood

Post by sam »

Go on just drill the hole, that way you'll be able to sit down. :lol:
User avatar
claymore
Admiral of the Green
Posts: 4762
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:55 pm
Boat Type: Claymore
Location: Ardfern or Lancashire

Re: Bits of wood

Post by claymore »

I'm with the opinion that you should buy the post thingie. I had one on our old boat and it was the mutts. - Just be careful when you sit down

Just looking at the fender, Ash I think you should put another half hitch in the blue string- it seems to be coming undone.
Regards
Claymore
:goatd
User avatar
sahona
Admiral of the White
Posts: 1992
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:17 pm
Boat Type: Marcon Claymore
Location: Clyde

Re: Bits of wood

Post by sahona »

Probably too late, but we've been busy sailing.
does it have to be that distance from the rudder stock? (because you're never going to have instant access to the locker whilst on auto)
If it's man enough, I'd try to move it aft and fit a blind socket in the fiberglass seat, raising the stud on the tiller if neccessary.
AND make sure there's no magnetic lumps sporadically in the locker!!
http://trooncruisingclub.org/ 20' - 30' Berths available, Clyde.
Cruising, racing, maintenance facilities. Go take a look, you know you want to.
Pete Cooper
Old Salt
Posts: 451
Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 5:48 pm
Boat Type: Micro Gem 550 Super Yacht

Re: Bits of wood

Post by Pete Cooper »

For mine I bought a bracket that bolts to the vertical side of the cockpit coaming - there is a solid rod which screws into the round plate, and a transverse hole in the end of this that he pilot drops into.
When you buy it the solid alloy rod is too long so you cut it to length and then glue on the end cap which has the hole through. Glueing the cap is fraught with worry because once you have applied the quick setting glue (supplied) it forms a seal round the end so the trapped air can not escape!
Anyway, once that is resolved it provides an excellent solution.
I leave the rod permanently screwed into the vertical plate, but yours would probably need unscrewing when not in use.
User avatar
Rowana
Old Salt
Posts: 773
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:58 pm
Boat Type: Macwester Rowan 8 meter
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: Bits of wood

Post by Rowana »

Pete Cooper wrote:For mine I bought a bracket that bolts to the vertical side of the cockpit coaming - there is a solid rod which screws into the round plate, and a transverse hole in the end of this that he pilot drops into.
Where did you buy this from Pete? Any photos?

I could do with something similar (I think)

Cheers
Jim
BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO ARE CRACKED,
FOR THEY ARE THE ONES WHO LET IN THE LIGHT
User avatar
puddock
Old Salt
Posts: 323
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:03 pm
Boat Type: Westerly Storm 33
Location: Aberdeen - Boat Lossiemouth

Re: Bits of wood

Post by puddock »

claymore wrote:I'm with the opinion that you should buy the post thingie. I had one on our old boat and it was the mutts. - Just be careful when you sit down
Simrad has a socket (epoxied into seat), with post on Tiller Pilot. Very easy on the derier....
Pete Cooper
Old Salt
Posts: 451
Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 5:48 pm
Boat Type: Micro Gem 550 Super Yacht

Re: Bits of wood

Post by Pete Cooper »

Rowana wrote:
Pete Cooper wrote:For mine I bought a bracket that bolts to the vertical side of the cockpit coaming - there is a solid rod which screws into the round plate, and a transverse hole in the end of this that he pilot drops into.
Where did you buy this from Pete? Any photos?

I could do with something similar (I think)

Cheers
Jim
I'll try for a photo when the rain stops - probably over the weekend.
Falkirkdan
Master Mariner
Posts: 134
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:54 am
Boat Type: snapdragon 24

Re: Bits of wood

Post by Falkirkdan »

Ash if you look at link http://www.raymarine.co.uk/products/aut ... etdet=8183" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; pick manuals and docs and download the user manual pdf file. Go to pages 31 and onward you will drawings of the various tiller posts.
Pete Cooper
Old Salt
Posts: 451
Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 5:48 pm
Boat Type: Micro Gem 550 Super Yacht

Re: Bits of wood

Post by Pete Cooper »

Falkirkdan wrote:Ash if you look at link http://www.raymarine.co.uk/products/aut ... etdet=8183" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; pick manuals and docs and download the user manual pdf file. Go to pages 31 and onward you will drawings of the various tiller posts.
Thanks for that - a picture paints a thousand words!
Mine is on page 38 - if anybody still needs a photo let me know. I got mine from BEE at Kip - I think it cost about £35.
User avatar
ash
Yellow Admiral
Posts: 1713
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:14 pm
Boat Type: Moody 346
Location: Tarbert, East Loch Tarbert, Loch Fyne, Scotland

Re: Bits of wood

Post by ash »

claymore wrote:
Just looking at the fender, Ash I think you should put another half hitch in the blue string- it seems to be coming undone.
Tis a Bowline with a long raggedy tail!!!!

Image

Ash
"This is a sailing Forum"
Albin Vega "Mistral" is now sold
User avatar
ash
Yellow Admiral
Posts: 1713
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:14 pm
Boat Type: Moody 346
Location: Tarbert, East Loch Tarbert, Loch Fyne, Scotland

Re: Bits of wood

Post by ash »

My thanks to everyone for their replys and suggestions. My situation is as follows:

My tiller is straight and starts from the bottom of the cockpit so it is a struggle to get it high enough to match up with a tillerpilot mounted as low as possible on the seating area. The rudder post slopes down and forward at 45 deg so the tiller works OK even when vertical but gets in the way of the mainsheet. I used to have the tiller sitting even lower, which I liked as I could hold it between my lower legs. I now have something jammed in the hinge to hold it up to match with the tillerpilot. The initial install was all a bit of a compromise - far enough forward so that the tiller pin was high enough - this gives plenty of power but reduced turning angle. Then I was a bit wary of cutting holes in the fibreglass but was happy enough to cut into the old locker lids - a few years on and I'm happier to cut a hole in the fibreglass. I think that I might mount the boat end of the tillerpilot in the fibreglass just behind the locker lid, even if this means that the t/pilot isn't quite square with boat. I could also get a long custom made tiller pin so gain height but this might tend to split the wood.

I'll think on it a bit longer!!!

Ash
"This is a sailing Forum"
Albin Vega "Mistral" is now sold
Post Reply