Saltire

Clyde_Wanderer · Post by **Clyde_Wanderer** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:03 pm

Going to ask my wife's aunt to make me a decent Saltire.
What size would be ideal for a 30ft? boat and what material should I advice her to buy for it? she is in London so will let her get the material.
TIA, C_W

marisca · Post by **marisca** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:45 am

Clyde_Wanderer wrote:Going to ask my wife's aunt to make me a decent Saltire.
What size would be ideal for a 30ft? boat and what material should I advice her to buy for it? she is in London so will let her get the material.
TIA, C_W

Depends where you intend to wear it. Wrapped round your shoulders as our gallant boys suffer yet another fitba defeat should have a fly of ~1.5m; flying from an ensign staff at the stern, about 1"/foot of boat; from the backstay while sailing up the Bristol Channel, I'd go for the biggest you can get, the natives seem quite susceptible to being wound up. Just make sure your aunt-in-law uses the right colour of blue!

Me, I prefer the rather classy :

Daveanmucker · Post by **Daveanmucker** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:03 pm

Be careful chaps, I played the devils advocate some time ago on the subject of flag etiquette and ended up with a bollocking all round even from t' management.

Think it was a class thing.

sahona · Post by **sahona** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:54 pm

Have a look to see what it's going to thrash itself to shreds on then make it just a hair smaller.
If it trails in the water in a kind of elegant old-fashioned way, that's OK.
Marisca's right about the colour, you don't want to be 'stopped in the water' do you.

Clyde_Wanderer · Post by **Clyde_Wanderer** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:21 pm

What a great source of inspiration you are guys

It will be flown from just under the sb spreader as is my current one which I bought when in Campbeltown last year as I felt out of place without one, it just seems a bit on the small side, at a guess aprox 20" x 14".
Incidently should it be Royal blue or mid blue?
Thanks, C_W

cpedw · Post by **cpedw** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:14 am

Clyde_Wanderer wrote: Incidently should it be Royal blue or mid blue?

In a word, No: the committee recommended that the optimum shade of blue for the Saltire should be Pantone 300 (that is, 0, 114, 198 in the RGB colour model, or #0072C6 as hexadecimal web colours)
Derek

Clyde_Wanderer · Post by **Clyde_Wanderer** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:10 pm

Would it be safe enough to summerise it as been Sky Blue then?
Thanks again all.
C_W

Post by **Nick** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:19 pm

(Opinion Polls show that the English overwhelmingly support Scottish independence)

Oft quoted Hardy, but can you give us a link to a RECENT poll that actually shows this?

little boy blue · Post by **little boy blue** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:39 pm

hardy wrote:....... (Opinion Polls show that the English overwhelmingly support Scottish independence).

if you are serious about it why don`t a couple of million of you move up here ( temporarily of course ) in time for the referendum ?

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the bm pipe band playing " will ye no come back again ".

( seems to be impossible to get these annoying people to line up properly - must be pissed - as usual ( the band - not me - yet

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ash · Post by **ash** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:20 pm

little boy blue wrote:
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BTW - What is the colour code for the background?

little boy blue · Post by **little boy blue** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:46 am

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Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:55 pm

hardy wrote:(Opinion Polls show that the English overwhelmingly support Scottish independence).

Yes, but only once the English Oil and Gas that is (inconveniently) positioned off Scotland runs out.

Incidently, since James I hasn't England always been ruled by a Scots king and his decendants? Surely England is therefore a province of Scotland???

Post by **DaveS** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:43 pm

That poll is 2.5 years old.

The 68% figure quoted actually refers to the proportion of English people polled who would like to see the establishment of an English parliament. If true and representative (and without any details of numbers polled etc. it's hard to tell) then that is surely encouraging. I've thought for a number of years now that one of the underlying reasons for English resentment of and racist bile about the Scots is that, now uniquely in the UK, England has no parliament in which to democratically debate its domestic affairs.

There is also quoted the prediction, current at the time, that the return of an SNP Scottish Government would immediately cause a constitutional crisis. Well, we've had one for a couple of years now, and we still await the constitutional crisis...

Post by **Nick** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:36 pm

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Hardy, you are speaking b*llocks old man.

The North Sea is already legally divided into a Scottish sector and an English sector. It has to be as Scots law is different to English law.

The relevant law is The Continental Shelf (Jurisdictional) Order 1968.

Currently this places 90% of the oil in Scottish waters, however this percentage is gradually growing as new fields open up to the North of present fields and also to the West of the mainland.

The SNP advocate dividing the North Sea assets based on the 55.50' latitude or upon international legal principles of equidistance.

Now, might I suggest that you all stop this racio-political bickering or go over to you-know-where if you want to whinge about which nation currently has the biggest chip on its shoulder. This is a sailing forum.

Post by **Nick** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:16 pm

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The Scottish Adjacent Waters Boundaries Order 1999 was enacted primarily with reference to fisheries.

The Continental Shelf (Jurisdiction) Order 1968, which defines the boundaries of Scottish waters, covers an area much greater than simply the territorial waters. The new renewable energy zone, as I understand it, is based on the Continental Shelf Act 1964. The 1968 order defined the English area, the Scottish area and the Northern Irish area within UK territorial waters and is still valid.

Now Hardy, if you want to get into a p*ssing contest with me forget it. Take a telling or go away. You do not seem - apart from one comment on glues - to have much in the way of boating expertise to contribute to the forum anyway, and although I may allow Claysie and TCM to extract copious quantities of urine this privilege is not extended to jonny come lately alleged mobo drivers who appear to have no valid reason for being on here other than to cause dissension.

In the immortal words of the underachieving Doric sage, awa an' bile yer heid - or start a thread which convinces the good citizens of this parish that you have any interest in sailing, because at the moment yer jaiket is on a shoogly peg.

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