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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:53 pm
by Aja
Your never too old...

My parents out sailing in the Kyles in june this year...
Never too old at 84 years young... apparently everything just takes that wee bit longer!
...and Lassiette is only 61 years of age.
How is everyone btw?
Donald
Well . . .
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:39 pm
by Nick
How is everyone btw?
Not as old as your parents yet, but greatly encouraged.
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:35 am
by Telo
Jings, ye're a right wee pimpernel. Nice to hear from you again.
Rgds
D
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:51 am
by Gordonmc
Donald,
I will be popping over at some point to Kames this weekend for the messagfes and will give your mum a wave.
The weather is looking reasonable so I might stop on one of the hotel moorings. Will you be you around?
Gordon.
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:20 pm
by Aja
Donald
Shard wrote:Jings, ye're a right wee pimpernel. Nice to hear from you again.
You would think that by my age I would be through the spotty stage....
Donald
Kames?
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:30 pm
by Aja
Gordon
Hope to be in the vicinity on Sunday. We have a few days off next week which if the weather is kind (i.e. stops bl00dy raining for 5 minutes) we'll have an end of term mini-cruise.
If not we'll be heading straight up river to Sandpoint for lifting out.
I'll be checking the log-book my mother keeps of all the boats on the moorings at Kames for your attendance record!!!
Donald
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:16 pm
by Clyde_Wanderer
Aja, I am sure I saw that boat at Holy loch last wk end, would I be correct?
My mate and I were discusing how well kept she was, and I reckoned she was carvel planked.
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:54 am
by penzephyr
As a newcomer to this forum, I hope it's not out of order to introduce myself via an old thread. There's Lassiette, nearly as old as me!
Been sailing, off and on, for years. When my kids were young, we had an Arden 4 - anyone remember them? She was a great boat, for her size, but my joints would be sorely tried now, whenever I had to visit the heads.
But always liking the heavy displacement, long keel type of boat, a while back we bought a Rustler 31, name of Penzephyr - hence my moniker. There aren't many about, but she's a kind of big sister to the Twister, both from the drawing-board of Kim Holman. Equally sea-worthy, but the Rustler has a bit more space.
Anyway, having visited Kames a few times recently, I've been struck by the sight of this really pretty old lady on a mooring there. I managed to spot her name, so traced her through the CYCA list, but when I found she was a Sonverie . . . well, Google couldn't tell me anything more.
I'd be really interested to learn a bit more about the boat. But if it's a topic of less than general curiosity, maybe a PM would be appropriate?
Cheers,
Alastair
PS Since my family have persuaded me to upgrade, Penzephyr is now for sale, can be viewed on the hard in Ardrossan. Have to say, I'll be sorry to
see her go. If she does.

Hi Alastair
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:05 am
by ash
Just caught your post, before I go to bed, after consuming lots of red wine - Aquaplane is leading me astray.
Anyway - can I use this oportune moment to grab the chance to be the first to say "Hello and Welcome".
Don't know the Arden 4, but there used to be one on the Kip brokerage - seemed to be there from one boatshow to the next.
You're moving up - from a Rustler 31 - what are you going for?
Might get as far as Ardrossan, during this w/e SHBS - not that I'm buying - just like looking at boats - I'm happy with our Vega.
A'm sure that you'll get an answer to your question.
Ash
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:38 am
by little boy blue
hi and welcome.
there are still a few arden 4`s around - was your example built by george hulley ?
you may find that there is a blue one on the moorings at tighnabruich. unfortunately i can`t remember its name.
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:19 am
by Aja
Penzephyr
Welcome.
Lassiette is a Robert Clark Inverie class of which 8 were built, this particular one by Millers in St Monance. She's 32'9" by 8' and a bit and is 8TM. She's been in the family since 1972 when we bought her from Blyth.
A joy to sail, she took our family all over the west coast, even though there were six of us and only 3 fixed berths.
Left to her own devices will sail unattended for a long time before needing attention.
Love her to bits.
As for Arden 4's. Plenty still about. Moulded somewhere in north east of England and towed up to Helensburgh behind a Land Rover to get finished at Arden Yachts yard. Absolutely bullet proof. I'm a good friend of George Hulley. He is still a cantankerous old bu66er and runs Hulley Marine from Sandpoint Marina in Dumbarton.
If you get him on a good day he'll tell you stories of all his boats.
Donald
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:27 am
by Aja
Clyde_Wanderer wrote:Aja, I am sure I saw that boat at Holy loch last wk end, would I be correct?
My mate and I were discusing how well kept she was, and I reckoned she was carvel planked.
Sorry - not the same one. Lassiette is now out of the water in Maramarine.
Regards
Donald
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:52 pm
by penzephyr
First of all, thanks for the welcomes - this seems to be a very hospitable place.
Thanks, too, for all the information.
All I ever knew about our Arden 4 was that she came from Arden Yachts originally. I think there was a wee plate somewhere on the boat that said so. I'm afraid at the time I didn't enquire any further, just always assumed that meant she was Clyde-built from start to finish. And she was certainly solid. So it's fascinating to learn that the hull only arrived in this part of the world behind a Land-Rover!
Still, we had a lot of fun with her; and she always looked after us. Our three kids were young at the time, so the shortage of accommodation wasn't too big a problem: the two boys slept with the sails in the forepeak, and our daughter, when she finally put in an appearance, was happily stowed on the cabin sole in her carry-cot. The same carry-cot in which we floated her out to the mooring, after the manner of that wean Moses in the bulrushes, when the dinghy was too full to fit her in. (Just kidding! Though when I think of some of the chances we probably took, I shudder and fear the heavy hand of the social worker on my shoulder even yet.)
Thanks Aja/Donald for the lowdown on Lassiette. She really looks a lovely boat.
I don't know much about Robert Clark, but as it happens, there was another of his boats in the big shed at Fairlie, winter before last, when ours was undercover there as well. And she was very handsome too, Bosun of Forth by name. I could hardly talk to the bloke who was working on her, I was so choked with envy! It was only afterwards I remembered what it probably cost to keep her, and wished I'd been a bit more sympathetic!
Anyway, here's to another 60 years for Lassiette!
Cheers
Alastair
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:11 pm
by Fingal
penzephyr wrote:
I don't know much about Robert Clark, but as it happens, there was another of his boats in the big shed at Fairlie, winter before last, when ours was undercover there as well. And she was very handsome too, Bosun of Forth by name. I could hardly talk to the bloke who was working on her, I was so choked with envy! It was only afterwards I remembered what it probably cost to keep her, and wished I'd been a bit more sympathetic!
Bosun berths at Port Edgar just up the pontoon from me and a very lovely boat she is. Her owner (or current caretaker) does indeed lavish extraordinary effort and quite a bit of his modest income on her. I will pass on your good wishes.
Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:16 am
by penzephyr
Border Maid wrote:
Bosun berths at Port Edgar just up the pontoon from me and a very lovely boat she is. Her owner (or current caretaker) does indeed lavish extraordinary effort and quite a bit of his modest income on her. I will pass on your good wishes.
Yes, please do that. He may not remember us and our wee boat (talking comparatively, here), but I seem to recall Bosun was parked in the shed right astern of Penzephyr. And most majestic she looked too.

A very fine boat.