Page 1 of 2

Davits and dinghies

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:14 pm
by Olivepage
I have davits on the blunt end of Olive.

I have a boarding ladder that fits on the Starboard side.

Does anyone have a really clever idea of how, having dropped the dinghy in the water, I move it to the starboard side so as to get in it.

For that matter - how do I do the reverse, preferably without getting wet.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:15 am
by Olivepage
Thanks for that. well thought out.

I can only see one minor flaw. The bit where you say lower dinghy and unclip the falls.

I can't reach the dinghy from the deck so I can't unclip the falls.

Sorry

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:16 pm
by Olivepage
I've suggest an exercise programme for SWMBO to facilitate this.

No doubt the bruises will fade in due course.

It seems a dead stymie at the moment. Only solution I could think of was 2 dinghies, but that seems ridiculous.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:53 pm
by sahona
As I read this, I wondered when someone was going to undo the dinghy! If the ladder is mobile ( you say 'it fits' on the startboard side) Can it not (even temporarily for the moment, )be fitted over the transom. That's what we have and it's great to lower the drib, step in, release the falls,and drive off. Returning is even better as we have a wee platform to come alongside as well.

Image

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:28 pm
by Olivepage
Nice piccy

A fine view of your big toe!

Sorry

The ladder fits on sort of clip things fixed to the hull, so not easily moved. Added to that its not really long enough to give a safe entry into the dinghy.

I do envy your arrangement looks exactly what I want. Its rather difficult on the CW as it has a rounded stern so anything like that would have to be custom made at a custom price.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:10 pm
by sahona
The clips for your existing ladder - can't you get/make more and lengthen it.
Point 1: if it's not really long enough, can you rescue yourself if you fall in?
Point 2: is it only useable on one side?
I think you should consider flexibility, maybe by adding to the exisiting ladder or getting a longer/folding/telescopic one, and fitting "landing points" (clips) in strategically useful areas of the boat - ie stern and both sides. Since the pic above was taken, we have added another ladder that goes 2 rungs under water so we can clamber onto the existing ladder ( we have experience of perlooshes!) We also have a facility for boarding at either side, with a gate in the lifelines, which is great when it's a bit lumpy - the captain gets aboard, and then I have park the rib....
I realise I've moved away from the original thread, but I believe a lot of problems occur between the tender and the mothership...

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:28 pm
by Olivepage
"In a crowded anchorage with a swell running this could provide hours of amusement for all concerned."

Yes

I must admit that thought did cross my mind, but full marks for ingenuity.

Actually thinking about it again I think it could well work. Perhaps some sort of clip on the end of a boathook Hmmmm.

I knew someone would come up with a solution.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:46 pm
by claymore
This is a very simple problem to solve.
Dinghy painter is long enough to attach somewhere along the side of the boat.
Davit lines are similarly long.
Undo the lines and lower the dinghy into the water
pull the dinghy around the stern and up the side of the boat
hop onto boarding ladder and lower self into dinghy
undo davit lines
QED

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:18 pm
by sahona
Huge falls, of course, excellent! You realise that "three steps to heaven" my bespoke ladder manufacturing facility, will be instucting our lawyers to pass your rope company a missive outlining the action we intend to take over your unfair disclosure of sensible and simple solutions to this problem. It's not fair, it's just not fair. **curly-lip emoticon**

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:47 pm
by claymore
It is not beyond the realms of possibility for your esteemed company to do well here. I have in fact had a couple of huge falls from the back of claymore in arriving at this solution. The most eye-watering of them involved me getting one leg either side of the aforementioned huge falls which inevitably helped me develop huge balls for a while. Despite my protestations, the medics were unable to ease the pain but leave the swelling and so wiser and speaking an octave higher, I no longer utilise that method of getting my leg over...
A quick release ladder that unfolds and reaches the water is an excellent device for the Claymore - when I do fall off, Dear Heart is entirely incapable of assisting me back aboard - in fact so assured of this am I that frequently when falling off, I hear myself thinking - "Well, you're on your own here matey"
Getting back aboard is greatly assisted if one can release the dinghy and get it to lower into the surrounding oggin - again - huge falls help, as does a three steps to heaven ladder.
Hope that extricates me from impending litigation

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:52 pm
by claymore
Going back to an earlier point - I often lower the dinghy down from the davits then grab a handful of 'fall' lift the dinghy back up, unclip the snapshackle and let the dinghy flop back into the water (the painter is best attached otherwise one does feel a pillock)

This is a grand method as the dinghy lands with a loud smack and all the meerkats on surrounding boats are soon bobbing their heads above the dodgers to see what calamity has befallen you.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:52 pm
by sahona
My imagination has been stimulated. We need a method of releasing the falls while semi-submerged at the stern, and assuming the tender was lifted and secured from the poopdeck. So have you got explosive cleats fitted with a long dangling trigger lanyard? If so, does the noise of the dinghy landing on your body rather than water not give the game away to the meekats?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:50 pm
by claymore
This is beginning to get difficult I fear.
Also reading back through some of the descriptions, it resembles an instruction manual. I have never been very good at understanding either instruction manuals or pilot books and so tend to avoid them whenever possible.
I think the simplest way of getting this lot sorted out is to have practical demonstrations, perhaps the Chentleman's cruise might present itself as an opportunity to do this?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:38 am
by sahona
Ah, a cunning ruse to lure me round Mulligan's Tyre while still recovering from the Clyde Scuttlebut. And then a poopdiving contest, no doubt blindfold and with a high gamma-GT reading. Sounds good, but realistically I think we'll still be in the Clyde at the time the intelligencia of the internet are anchored in the pool of honk 56 19.4561N - 005 35.2287W
This could be so good the meerkats should pay, so I'm chucking the ladders and going into showbiz. Tickets will soon be available...

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:16 pm
by claymore
I'm planning to spend a few weeks in the Clyde before heading northwards in July - perhaps a Synchronised Activity may be possible?