BLUEMOMENT

claymore wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:49 am I have long believed there is an academic opportuniy here for a Social Science based piece of research and in the right hands, I am convinced there would be sufficient material to support a doctorate.
One would need to explore further than the common stereotypical norms - the dress codes, the boat choices, the Club choices but having said that, they should not be overlooked entirely.
The writer would need a support team - an academic friend, a research assistant, a recognised ' authority' on social trends and established norms - Martin Edge springs to mind.
So - Should we assemble a team?

Aja wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:57 pm Up here in the NW there so appear to be plenty of boats that would under different circumstances be elsewhere.

One thing that has caught my eye is the number of defaced red ensigns.

Question: Is any Scottish yacht Club allowed to fly such a beast?

I'm not talking about the red ensigns with the Saltire.

Donald

In 1922, according to Perrin (Page 139), there were 42 clubs entitled to fly the Blue Ensign "either plain or defaced", with 8 being "allowed to deface the Red Ensign with their particular badge". A total of 53 including the Royal Yacht Squadron.
Christopher Southworth, 5 November 2003 ...

... It all depends how you count them, and how you define a British yacht club. There are 104 clubs in the Navy List. If you add the RAF Sailing Association there are 105, but only 77 are in the United Kingdom. Of the 105 ensigns 27 are plain Blue, three Blue Ensigns have the same badge, as do two Red Ensigns, which makes 76 different ensigns. I don't agree with Perrin's figures. In 1922 I reckon there were 34 clubs with plain Blue Ensigns, 30 with defaced Blue Ensigns, and 8 with defaced Red Ensigns. The list of yacht clubs having a special ensign is on pages 244 - 247 of the Navy List at
http://www.rncom.mod.uk/uploadedFiles/R ... t_2006.pdf
David Prothero, 11 November 2003 ...

... British Yacht Club Special Ensigns have, in total, been granted to 108 clubs in the British Isles, and 49 clubs in other parts of the world. In the British Isles 30 clubs have had Blue ensigns, 53 defaced Blue Ensigns, including 3 defaced on the Union, 18 defaced Red Ensigns, including 4 defaced on the Union, 5 defaced White Ensigns, one a White Ensign, one a White Ensign with no overall cross, and one defaced a RAF Ensign. The number of different designs is 78. Three clubs have had the same defacement on the Union of their defaced Blue Ensign, and three other clubs have had the same defacement on the Union of their defaced Red Ensign. Although two clubs have had three different ensigns, and six clubs have had two different ensigns, in four cases one of the ensigns was Blue, in two cases the defacement of the Union of their Blue Ensign was the same, and in two other cases the defacement of the Union of their Red Ensign was the same.

Brixham Yacht Club, Devon
Royal Dart Yacht Club, South Devon
Royal Fowey Yacht Club, Cornwall
House of Commons Yacht Club, Hants
Lloyd's Yacht Club, London
Royal Hamilton Amateur Dinghy Club, Bermuda
Royal Lymington Yacht Club, Hants
Royal Norfolk and Suffolk Yacht Club, Suffolk
Royal Portsmouth Corinthian Yacht Club (1880-1930). Originally a red ensign with a crown on the Union, warrant cancelled.
Royal St George Yacht Club, Dublin, Ireland (1847-1895). Originally a red ensign with a crown on the Union, changed to crown on fly (1895 - current).
Royal Victoria Yacht Club, Isle of Wight (1872-1898). Originally a red ensign with a crown on the Union, changed to crown on fly above VR
Royal Windermere Yacht Club, Cumbria
Royal Yachting Association, Hants
St. Helier Yacht Club, Jersey
West Mersea Yacht Club, Essex