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Re: Done it

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:26 pm
by tcm
ooh, free instructoring! well done nick

Re: Done it

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:04 pm
by Booby Trapper
Well done Nick
Will I need to pay to have you aboard next time? :lol:

Re: Done it

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:50 pm
by Nick
Booby Trapper wrote:Well done Nick
Will I need to pay to have you aboard next time? :lol:
Beer will be fine . . .

Re: Done it

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:52 pm
by Nick
tcm wrote:ooh, free instructoring! well done nick
You could still probably write what I know about downwind catamaran sailing on a smallish postage stamp . . .

Re: Done it

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:27 pm
by Clyde_Wanderer
Nick wrote:
ubergeekian wrote:
As a matter of interest, how much of the time is spent assessing your sailing skills and how much is spent assessing your teaching skills? And congratulations, of course.
Maybe 50/50, but the two were inextricably linked witih all manoevres talked through, reviewed and analysed. It was flat out every day, usually sailing all day with an hour for lunch with each trainee doing at least one 'theory/chat' teaching assessment session each, then another 3 or more in the evenings and the odd one thrown in at other times (eg before setting off). Actually sailing maybe 8-9 hours a day and on the helm roughly a third of that demonstrating manoevres and another third talking the helmsman through a manoevre.

Although the purpose of the assessment is to make sure you can teach all the RYA courses there is an underlying assumption that your own sailing skills and toolkit should be considerably ahead of anyone you are likely to be teaching. It's certainly revived my interest in pushing my personal envelope and made me a lot more ambitious and self-critical. I'm looking forward to doing more teaching on different boats next year.

(Boat was a Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 36i [/color]- not my usual at all but quite a lot of fun)
Congrats Nick.
Would that have been Santa Vey then?
C_W

Re: Done it

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:14 pm
by ubergeekian
Nick wrote:
ubergeekian wrote:
As a matter of interest, how much of the time is spent assessing your sailing skills and how much is spent assessing your teaching skills? And congratulations, of course.
Maybe 50/50, but the two were inextricably linked witih all manoevres talked through, reviewed and analysed.
Thanks. I was asked (by three separate clubs, preen, preen) to become a gliding instructor but I only got as far as ordering the BGA instructors' manual. It was absolutely dreadful as far as teaching went: this confirmed my experience which was that all BGA instructors could fly well but many of them couldn't teach for toffee. It sounds as if the RYA have a much more productive approach.

You weren't on the boat which spend two solid days moving from berth to berth in Port Bannatyne Marina, were you?

Re: Done it

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:38 pm
by Nick
ubergeekian wrote:
You weren't on the boat which spend two solid days moving from berth to berth in Port Bannatyne Marina, were you?
No, but we might have towed it into Largs on the Thursday. Was it a Moody of some sort?

Re: Done it

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:38 pm
by Nick
Clyde_Wanderer wrote:Congrats Nick.
Would that have been Santa Vey then?
C_W
Thanks Eamonn,

Yes, it was the Santa Vey.

Re: Done it

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:30 pm
by sarabande
well done !


Should you now be able to wear the YMI and bar ribbon ?

Re: Done it

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:00 pm
by Nick
sarabande wrote:well done !

Should you now be able to wear the YMI and bar ribbon ?
There are no distinguishing marks - it's just an endorsement of your YM certificate.

A swollen ego** is apparently a risk, but if anything the week has shown me that I still have a long way to go. I am now convinced that I am fit to teach though - the Cruising Instructor cert was a bit less compelling.

**Q: What's the difference between a yachtmaster Instructor and God?

.. A: God knows he is not a yachtmaster Instructor

Re: Done it

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:08 pm
by ubergeekian
Nick wrote: No, but we might have towed it into Largs on the Thursday. Was it a Moody of some sort?
All these big white things look the same to me. Had a name like "Shearwater", I think. Kept us entertained for hours in the rain. I don't mean that snidely, by the way - they were jolly good and I didn't hear any crashes or even raised voices.

Re: Done it

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:17 pm
by Nick
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Doesn;t sound like the same boast. It was Chewsy, a Moody 41 from Second Wind Sailing, that we towed in. Her alternator went in Port Bannatyne and she sailed back to Largs. We picked her up just off Cumbrae and towed her in. That was on Thursday. She had a couple of people preparing for a yachtmaster exam on Saturday, so it made life a bit difficult for them. They borrowed - or chartered - Santa Vey from Cumbrae though, and hopefully all went well for them.

Re: Done it

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:03 pm
by Rowana
Nick wrote:.
It was Chewsy, a Moody 41 from Second Wind Sailing, that we towed in. Her alternator went in Port Bannatyne and she sailed back to Largs. We picked her up just off Cumbrae and towed her in. That was on Thursday.
I've done a couple of courses with Second wind. Steve is a top bloke.

If it was just the alternator that had packed in, could they not still start the engine, or had they flattened both batteries? Or alternatively, just use the sails to get in?

Re: Done it

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:54 am
by Nick
Rowana wrote:
Nick wrote:.
It was Chewsy, a Moody 41 from Second Wind Sailing, that we towed in. Her alternator went in Port Bannatyne and she sailed back to Largs. We picked her up just off Cumbrae and towed her in. That was on Thursday.
I've done a couple of courses with Second wind. Steve is a top bloke.

If it was just the alternator that had packed in, could they not still start the engine, or had they flattened both batteries? Or alternatively, just use the sails to get in?
I exchanged more lines than words with Steve but he seemed like a nice guy. He said it was a new (2009) engine with no facility for hand starting - same as a lot of modern engines. There isn't any way of hand starting our Beta either that I am aware of.

Re: Done it

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:31 pm
by claymore
Hand back your cert you pillock.

I exchanged more lines than words with Steve but he seemed like a nice guy. He said it was a new (2009) engine with no facility for hand starting - same as a lot of modern engines. There isn't any way of hand starting our Beta either that I am aware of.

Of coure there is and you should know it you unworthy wretch. Strong string to a block at the top of the mast and tied to the heaviest crew member on board and wound round the flywheel - if there is no notch, then dive into your comprehensive tool box and cut one with the hacksaw.

Send heaviest member of crew to top of mast - tighten the strong string so there is no slack.
HCM jumps - line tightens - flywheel turns - engine bursts into life
QED.