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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:41 pm
by jim.r
I hate to contradict you Claysie .. but aaaaargghhhhhhh..........
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:47 pm
by claymore
aaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh is not a term of contradiction that I am familiar with - you are normally a reasonable communicator so perhaps you'd like to attempt a fuller description of your intended contradiction in order that I might more fully understand what you are trying to say?
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:01 pm
by jim.r
well I did'nt contradict you, but. The Aarrghhhhh was merely a compassionate shriek at the thought of yersel even contemplating an uphill struggle against the wind to rescue the sainted Deerhart,but. I wiz overcame with emotion, please forgive me,but.
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:46 pm
by claymore
So yer objection wasn't a response to my comments about the fotie.
I think Claymore would be an absolute sod of a boat to lose someone from - sailing downwind in particular with the genny boomed out or the spinny up would be my idea of a desperate situation to get back to a MOB from, particularly if it was just the two of us.
So go on -make my day punk, contradict me.
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:54 pm
by jim.r
even with the aid of Myrtle and her sisters .. the trusty fender steps?
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:06 pm
by claymore
Even dropping the dinghy down from the davits and Fiona.
I went for a swim last year ( voluntarily) and thought I'd try getting back aboard - bearing in mind that I was only wearing the 50+ equivalent of speedos and therefore not weighed down by sodden clothing, I really struggled to get back aboard just using Fiona - we now have a ladder that goes below the surface but a struggle without
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:14 pm
by jim.r
In all seriousness, getting back on board any boat is truly difficult but Claymore would be an absolute nightmare
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:21 pm
by claymore
Agreeing with me does not constitute contradiction. Please make your contradiction - I'm rather looking forward to it.
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:33 pm
by Rowana
For goodness sake, one of you say "Yes" and the other one "No"
I'm busy waiting for all the for and against points. All this agreement stuff does not make for interesting reading
Now get on with it

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:19 pm
by Olivepage
"That's one of the secrets of TOP, if you needed to know the answer, it was normally there somewhere. If it wasn't, it wouldn't take long for someone to give it. "
True its always there.
Trouble is its invariably accompanied by at least 4 alternative answers whose supports will insist are right. 192 posts later the original question has been lost in torrents of abuse.
More seriously I have seen so much nonsense offered as answers, particularly about electrical, radio and electronics, many of them downright dangerous. Oddly the more outrageously wrong the answer the more vigorously the originator would argue its merit. I gave up on it long ago.
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:31 pm
by Olivepage
"In all seriousness, getting back on board any boat is truly difficult but Claymore would be an absolute nightmare"
I have the same issues with Olive.
Standing orders are forget sails, fire up Pretty Polly and get the liferaft in the water as close as possible to the immersed one.
We can do the pulling, hauling and squabbling from there - actually with the power winches and time to set things up its relatively straightforward. The liferaft gives the time.
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:31 pm
by jim.r
claymore wrote:Agreeing with me does not constitute contradiction. Please make your contradiction - I'm rather looking forward to it.
yeah, you're right there..
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:38 am
by claymore
Right that I'm right or right that I'm looking forward to it?