BLUEMOMENT

I'm not at all certain who should have control of the seabed, but I suppose that the Crown Commissioners must be as good as any, although I'm not at all certain to whom, and how, they are accountable.

The idea of laying one's own mooring is very attractive, but there's always the danger that badly sited moorings reduce the available area for anchoring. This is already an issue in some areas I understand, as also has been the proliferation of fish firms, and the abandonment of their chains and cables when the farms fall into disuse.

Troon Cruising club - £122 family with berth. £540 -wall mooring 12 months. Variable (dep on length ) on island pontoon about £1K. Clubhouse, own hoist tractors etc. , workshop with weld/drill/lathe/cut, dinghy cages carpark in locked compound.

sahona wrote:Troon Cruising club

Looking at the application form, I see that you need two members to propose and second your application. I also see that you need to complete an application to join a waiting list for a berth - how long is the waiting list ? - do you know ?

Just a casual enquiry

Ash

Unless there are substantial reasons, the proposal/seconding is not an issue. The waiting list for the wall, or a shallow fore-aft mooring, could be very short, depending on the shape of your boat. The island pontoon moorings are, however, oversubscribed, requiring an "apprenticeship" on the wall for a few seasons first, then waiting for a suitable berth to come free. Basically we like active members, not boat-parkers from afar, who take up resources but are never around when something needs done.
These are my personal rant by the way, not the official club view!

sahona wrote: Basically we like active members, not boat-parkers from afar, who take up resources but are never around when something needs done.
These are my personal rant by the way, not the official club view!

but probably should be part of the club rules - but wouldn't be very PC.

As I say, the enquiry is casual.

Boat shape is the same as Webby's Fairwinds! I think that you may already have ( or used to have ) an Albin Vega in the club.

We're currently in the Marina at Ardlui on Loch Lomond. We're certainly not boat parkers - we use the boat most weekends during the summer. We like the facility of a marina as we often take the g/kids with us, but as they get older then wall ladders / island pontoons are more do able ( then again, as the skipper gets older ......)

A marina berth on the Clyde is another £ 1000 plus a year more than we pay at the moment although the gap is getting less.

Troon would be a fairly easy road trip from home but from the sailing point of view, I would prefer to be further into the estuary.

Kip is also a reasonable run from home, and have a cruising club, but their reduced berthing rates only apply up to 7 M IIRC.

Ash

If you're thinking of moving, don't discount us. We also have a landing pontoon for those times when extremes of age, supplies, animals etc. are embarking, you just sail over to it from your mooring and collect your cargo.. Not sure what the current Vega count is, but at least two, I assume you've seen on the website that we race and cruise regularly. Have a GoogleEarth to see the layout.

ash -
[quote..... Kip is also a reasonable run from home, and have a cruising club, but their reduced berthing rates only apply up to 7 M IIRC.[/quote]

the small boat section - there may be a waiting list for that as well.
nordic ranger on top was secretary at one time i think. i don`t know if he posts on here or not.
however, kip will bite you in the arse eventually, in my experience anyway.

little boy blue wrote:however, kip will bite you in the arse eventually, in my experience anyway.

Sounds like a tale waiting to be told...

Having enquired at Kip myself, 6.7m, I was told that the reduced rate is for day boats under 7m. Quite why day boats but not cruisers (who would leave the berth open to be re-let frequently) I wasn't able to ascertain.

Silkie wrote:

little boy blue wrote:however, kip will bite you in the arse eventually, in my experience anyway.

Sounds like a tale waiting to be told...

Having enquired at Kip myself, 6.7m, I was told that the reduced rate is for day boats under 7m. Quite why day boats but not cruisers (who would leave the berth open to be re-let frequently) I wasn't able to ascertain.

I believe that you need to be a member of the KCC to get a reduced rate for a small cruiser. Academic anyway - both the membership list and the waiting list are full. See Kip CC

I would assume that day boats are dry berthed. Silkie would be a 'small boat' 7.7 x 2.25M. See Kip Marina Charges

Maybe that's where you went wrong

Marina - 'that would be charged as a small boat, sir'

Silkie - 'never - I won't have Silkie described as a small boat'

LBB - I second Silkie - Tell the Tale

Ash

its a moan best reserved for a telling over a dram or two of an evening

ash wrote:See Kip Marina Charges

I sincerely hope that Short Stay (Max 5hrs) £12.00 per metre is a typo.

Silkie wrote:

ash wrote:See Kip Marina Charges

I sincerely hope that Short Stay (Max 5hrs) £12.00 per metre is a typo.

Just tell them that you're staying for a day, and pay £2.15 a metre!!!

"Daily Berth Rental £2.15 per metre
Short Stay (Max 5hrs) £12.00 per metre"

Ash