BLUEMOMENT

Let me get this straight; after years of meeting people who sail that are pleasant & nice, you have rafted up alongside an unpleasant selfish pair - and now you want to paint us all with the same brush? I'm sorry, but you will meet selfish idiots in all walks of life. sailing is not immune. ......

I spent a week in Holland last year sailing under genny only, often sailing faster and higher than other yachts with 2 sails out. I do think that the flat water helped though.

BarryT
Sigma 362